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Info-Hams Digest            Tue, 21 Jun 94       Volume 94 : Issue  688

Today's Topics:
                                "73's"
                6Mtr E-Skip:Europe to USA-Last Sunday
             Amateur service numbers decline in March '94
                            AR 'etiquette'
                        Ham Radio in WA State
                  International Call Server (2 msgs)
         Last Sundays US>Europe 6MTR E-Skip Opening feedback
              Mass, RI and NH   Field Day  QTHs  Wanted
                          Old QSTs available
                             Sign me up!
                        Tech+ license issued.
                       Tech. exam wanted in MKE
          Transmission Line Impedance: Why so many? (2 msgs)
              Where to buy equipment in the Far East ??

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Date: Tue, 21 Jun 1994 14:32:24 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!gatech!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!zip.eecs.umich.edu!yeshua.marcam.com!news.kei.com!wang![e-mail]
Subject: "73's"
To: [e-mail]

[e-mail] (Cecil A. Moore -FT-~) writes:

>Dave, my 1957 ARRL Handbook lists the meaning of 73 as "Best Regards"...
>and also lists 26.93-27.23 MHz as a ham band. :-)

Hi Cecil,

Does it have something for 73 and for 73's, or just 73?  And what does
it say about packet radio?  How about no-code tech?  Anything about
Extra class?  902-928 MHz?  Repeaters?  Solid state KW amps?  Icom?
Yaesu?  OOTC?

:)

73,
Dave, KZ1O

--
Dave Bushong, Wang Laboratories, Inc.

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Date: 21 Jun 1994 14:29:17 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!usc!howland.reston.ans.net!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!news.umbc.edu!haven.umd.edu!cs.umd.edu!newsfeed.gsfc.nasa.gov!bolt.gsfc.nasa.gov![e-mail]
Subject: 6Mtr E-Skip:Europe to USA-Last Sunday
To: [e-mail]

Here are two reports from both ends. Dick W1DGA

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Date: 21 Jun 94 15:07:43 GMT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Amateur service numbers decline in March '94
To: [e-mail]

According to the ARRL Letter for June 15, the FCC deleted 3744 station
licenses while adding in 3010 or a difference of 734 against the amateur
service.

Anyone got the numbers for January and February?

73,

bill wb9ivr
[e-mail]
[e-mail]

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Date: 21 Jun 1994 12:46:54 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!usc!howland.reston.ans.net!agate!cat.cis.Brown.EDU!NewsWatcher![e-mail]
Subject: AR 'etiquette'
To: [e-mail]

In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail]
(Mario Campos) wrote:

>  You got that right! My friends ask why I'm not on 2 meters as I used to be.
>  I too shall refrain from making any comments other than that 2 meters is
>  slowly becoming the cellular phone system of ham radio. I do not enjoy
>  listening to phone patches, husbands or wives telling each other to pick up
>  the kids at Grandmas, they'll be home in 5 minutes, etc., etc.! My way out
>  is not to turn on the rig or go simplex to chat!

(WARNING - This may irritate some people but too bad.)

Or you could get together with some friends and setup a CLOSED repeater on
70cm.

--
== Tony Pelliccio, KD1NR
== [e-mail], Tel. [phone] Fax. [phone]
== The opinions above are my own and not those of my employer.

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Date: Tue, 21 Jun 1994 15:25:25 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!library.ucla.edu!csulb.edu!csus.edu!netcom.com![e-mail]
Subject: Ham Radio in WA State
To: [e-mail]

Bill Turini ([e-mail]) wrote:
: I'm relocating to Washington (Enumclaw area) and I'd like to correspond
: with someone in Washington about the state of ham radio there.

: I noticed from a quick look in the repeater directory that there seems to
: be a significantly greater number of 440 repeaters in the state than 2
: meters.  Is this the case?

: Also, if someone knows of a ham radio club in the area I'd really
: appreciate it.

: The ham license plates has been covered here, thanks.

: Anything else would be appreciated.

I don't live in Washington State (though I'd like to!  :)  ) but I did
motor thru the state with my HT last year.

Lots of 2 meter and 440 repeaters.  Many are linked every which way to
every which band, such that you may be in eastern Washington talking to
someone in Seattle, on 2 meters, and find out that he is coming thru a 440
or 1.2 gig gateway.

A nice system, actually, and the people were quite friendly.  Some of the
local repeaters were a bit provincial, but that's true most places, I
'spose.

--
                                             [e-mail]
                                             Glendale, CA
                                             AB6WR

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Date: 21 Jun 94 13:31:46 GMT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: International Call Server
To: [e-mail]

A while back someone posted the address of a world-wide-web
international call server.  I seem to have misplaced.  Can
someone e-mail it to me or post it here?

Thanks...73 de N1PBT/AE...ron
Ron Rossi

/====================================================================/
/ IBM Microelectronics             Internet:   [e-mail]   /
/ H/P ASIC SRAM Design                 VNET:   RROSSI at BTVLABVM    /
/ Dept N93  Bldg 861-2                Voice:   802/769-7477          /
/ 1000 River Road                        RF:   N1PBT/AE              /
/ Essex Junction, VT  05452-4299                                     /
/                                                                    /
/ "I work for IBM, I don't represent its views!"                     /
/                                                                    /
/====================================================================/

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Date: 21 Jun 1994 10:47:23 -0400
From: yale.edu!noc.near.net!chaos.dac.neu.edu![e-mail]
Subject: International Call Server
To: [e-mail]

In article <[e-mail]>,
Ron D. Rossi <[e-mail]> wrote:
>A while back someone posted the address of a world-wide-web
>international call server.  I seem to have misplaced.  Can
>someone e-mail it to me or post it here?
>
>Thanks...73 de N1PBT/AE...ron
>Ron Rossi
>
>/====================================================================/
>/ IBM Microelectronics             Internet:   [e-mail]   /
>/ H/P ASIC SRAM Design                 VNET:   RROSSI at BTVLABVM    /
>/ Dept N93  Bldg 861-2                Voice:   802/769-7477          /
>/ 1000 River Road                        RF:   N1PBT/AE              /
>/ Essex Junction, VT  05452-4299                                     /
>/                                                                    /
>/ "I work for IBM, I don't represent its views!"                     /
>/                                                                    /
>/====================================================================/


You can access the UK Web callsign server via the Boston Amateur Radio
Club's home page: http://www.acs.oakland.edu/barc.html

If there are any other international callsign servers, please let me know.

73,
Scott


--
Scott Ehrlich, Amateur Radio Callsign: wy1z
How to reach me: [e-mail] [Internet], [e-mail] [Packet]
Boston ARC ftp archives: ftp oak.oakland.edu /pub/hamradio
Boston ARC Web page: http://www.acs.oakland.edu/barc.html

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Date: 21 Jun 1994 14:27:08 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!usc!howland.reston.ans.net!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!news.umbc.edu!haven.umd.edu!cs.umd.edu!newsfeed.gsfc.nasa.gov!bolt.gsfc.nasa.gov![e-mail]
Subject: Last Sundays US>Europe 6MTR E-Skip Opening feedback
To: [e-mail]

Here are two reports from both ends. Dick W1DGA

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Date: 21 Jun 1994 09:14:02 -0400
From: newstf01.cr1.aol.com!search01.news.aol.com![e-mail]
Subject: Mass, RI and NH   Field Day  QTHs  Wanted
To: [e-mail]

In article <2t5e59$[e-mail]>,
[e-mail] (Steven L. Finberg) writes:

The list appeared in the Boston Globe on 6/19/94 on the bacl page of
the Real Estate Section in the Hobbies area!

Thanks Steve.

73 for now.... c u on the shortwaves
Terry Stader - KA8SCP
America Online Ham Radio Club Host
Macintosh Amateur Radio Software List Maintainer
Internet: [e-mail] (e-mail)  or
          [e-mail] (binaries/files >28K)
KA8SCP@WA1PHY.#EMA.MA.USA.NOAM
[e-mail] [44.56.4.82] Mac
                       [44.56.4.120] DOS Clone
(they're BOTH pc's!)

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Date: Tue, 21 Jun 94 09:59:04 CDT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!gatech!howland.reston.ans.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!vmd.cso.uiuc.edu![e-mail]
Subject: Old QSTs available
To: [e-mail]

Although I am not a ham I have for years been dragging some old QST's around
with me.  These are mostly from the 30's into the 50's and mostly complete
although no longer pristine.  Anyway I would like to get rid of them,
preferably to someone who can pick them up in the Champaign-Urbana IL area.

So the first person (if anyone wants them) who can arrange to pick them up
can have them.  If you email me and I don't respond someone else got them.


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Date: Tue, 21 Jun 94 13:54:51 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!gatech!nntp.msstate.edu!olivea!news.hal.COM!halsoft.com!netcomsv!skyld![e-mail]
Subject: Sign me up!
To: [e-mail]

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] writes:

  [ snip ]

  >     Anyway, that's it from here.  I glad that this Internet thing is
  > working.  This will be alot of fun.  I will look forward to hearing from
  > you soon.  You guys take care and have a good one.
  >
  > Later,
  >
  > MIKEY
  > [e-mail]
  >

  Yes, Mikey, I'm glad that it works too.  Now perhaps you might wish to
  find out *how* it works.

  73 es GM from Jeff

 Amateur: WA6FWI@WA6FWI.#SOCA.CA.USA.NOAM | "You have a flair for adding
Internet: [e-mail]        |  a fanciful dimension to any
 US Mail: PO Box 4425 Carson, CA 90749    |  story."
   Phone: [phone]                |           Peking Noodle Co.

Hate "Green Card Lottery"? Want to help curb ignorant crossposting on Usenet?
E-mail [e-mail] for more information, or read news.groups.

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Date: 20 Jun 1994 19:58:31 GMT
From: news2.near.net!info-server.bbn.com!news![e-mail]
Subject: Tech+ license issued.
To: [e-mail]

In article <2u4non$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Bill Gunshannon) writes:
   In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Joel B Levin) writes:
   |> I believe this started in March when the FCC began accepting the new
   |> (current) form 610 (and ONLY that form).  If you were to move, say,
   |> and submit a photocopy of your CSCE with one of your license and a
   |> change-of-address 610, I'll bet you'd get a new license that said Tech
   |> Plus, too.

   What are they going to do about Tech's who don't have a CSCE becuase they
   got their license long before there was a No-Code Technician Class??

Technician licenses originally issued before that date contain assumed
credit for element 1(A) (5 wpm CW test), though you might have to send
a copy of an older license showing it was issued before that date.

Further, technicians licensed before an earlier date (in 1987, I
forget when) have permanent credit for element 3(B), the General
written test, and can therefore get a General just by passing the 13
wpm CW test, since before that date Technicians took the same written
test as Generals.

    /JBL
=
Nets: [e-mail]  |  "GO TO JAIL.  Go directly to jail. Do not pass
POTS: [phone]  |  Go.  Do not collect $200."
KD1ON (@KB4N.NH.USA) |           -- Parker Brothers

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Date: Mon, 20 Jun 94 18:34:00 -0800
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!usc!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!netline-fddi.jpl.nasa.gov!nntp-server.caltech.edu!news.claremont.edu!kaiwan.com!ledge![e-mail]
Subject: Tech. exam wanted in MKE
To: [e-mail]

Ryan, call AES (Amateur Electronic Supply) in Milwaukee.  They should
be able to give you information about upcoming tests.

73 DE K6DDX

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Date: Tue, 21 Jun 94 13:37:44 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!library.ucla.edu!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!howland.reston.ans.net!spool.mu.edu!torn!nott!dgbt!clark.dgim.doc.ca![e-mail]
Subject: Transmission Line Impedance: Why so many?
To: [e-mail]

D.J.Trynor EE ([e-mail]) wrote:
: It seems that there are so many transmission lines impedances (i.e 50, 75,
: 300 ohms).
: Is there a technical reason for this or was it merely a development of
: different standards?

: Don Trynor VE9NZ

: --
: -------------------------------------------------------------------------
: | Donald J. Trynor  EE            | " I`ve got a strong urge to fly...   |
: | University of New Brunswick     | ...but I've got no where to fly to." |
: | [e-mail]     |                                      |
: -------------------------------------------------------------------------

Hi Donny.....

    Iam surprised you don't ask how come resistors have different
values too......

    And this is your second year of EE!!!! egads....

Oh, I get it.. It it as a joke...right.....

    You know who...  RT

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Date: Tue, 21 Jun 1994 14:51:40 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!agate!spool.mu.edu!news.clark.edu!netnews.nwnet.net!reuter.cse.ogi.edu!hp-cv!hp-pcd!hpcvsnz![e-mail]
Subject: Transmission Line Impedance: Why so many?
To: [e-mail]

Ken A. Nishimura ([e-mail]) wrote:
: In article <[e-mail]>,
: Gary Coffman <[e-mail]> wrote:
: >
: >At least for coax, there are technical reasons. 75 ohm *air line* (actually
: >76.708 ohms) has the lowest loss of any impedance coax. If we replace
: >the air with polyethelene, we have 50 ohm cable (actually 51.02 ohms).
: >That's because the ratio of conductor diameters for lowest loss is 3.59112:1
: >in both cases, the dielectric making the difference in surge impedance.
: >
: >Gary

: This must be for some preset inner conductor diameter.  When I work
: the loss of the coax (assuming perfect dielectric -- loss only due
: to skin effect), I get:

: alpha = R/2Zo

: where R = (Rs/2pi)*(1/ro + 1/ri)
: and Zo = (sqrt (mu/epsilon)/2pi)*(ln(ro/ri))

: So, for a given inner conductor diameter, there will be a specific
: impedance for minimum loss, but I don't see how that ratio holds
: for all sizes.  Is my math messed up?  Oh, Rs is the skin effect sheet
: resistance.

Actually, it's for a given _outer_ conductor diameter, where the inner
and outer conductors have the same resistivity.  For instance, for
aluminum-jacketed line with a copper inner conductor, the lowest loss
for a given OD is a bit higher than if both conductors are copper
(or both are aluminum).  75 ohm foam aluminum-jacketed CATV line is
just about optimum impedance for that dielectric.  There was a good article
a couple years ago in "RF Design" about coax loss that went into this sort
of thing.

If the dielectric loss is ignored, for a given _inner_ conductor diameter,
it is clear that the lowest loss will be for an infinite outer conductor
diameter--that also assumes something about modes, of course.  Reason:  the
higher the impedance, the more power transmitted for a given current, and
all the loss is because of current in the conductors.  (See also "surface
wave transmission line" which is a single-conductor line with very low
loss.)

In coax, making the outer conductor large is expensive--both from the
standpoint of outer conductor cost and insulation cost.  However, in
open wire line, wider spacing is fairly cheap.  Up to the point where
radiation or dielectric loss starts to become significant, the higher the
impedance line you make with a given pair of conductors, the lower the
loss.  This is true _even_if_the_load_is_lower_impedance_than_the_line_.
That is, making the line higher impedance will give lower loss even though
the SWR on the line increases.  This is easy to see if you realize that the
max current is at the load, and making the line impedance higher decreases
the current everywhere else, for a given load current (again assuming the
load impedance is lower than the line impedance).  (It's also true that if
the load is higher impedance than the line, increasing the line impedance
helps, but the explanation has to be modified.)

Cheers,
Tom -- K7ITM

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Date: 21 Jun 1994 11:54:37 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!usc!howland.reston.ans.net!EU.net!sunic!trane.uninett.no!nac.no!nntp-oslo.uninett.no!NewsWatcher![e-mail]
Subject: Where to buy equipment in the Far East ??
To: [e-mail]

Hi!
Thanks for reading this message.
I am going to the Far East in my summer holiday, and I want some info
about buying equipment such as HF tranceivers, Dual Banders, e.g.

I think I am going to Hong Kong or Singapore, so if you have any addresses,
or perhaps any prices, it would be very nice.

By the way....how is it to get a radio amateur licence in Hong Kong ??

vy 73 de Tom/LA1BJA/JW1BJA
tomrune@mac_inge.itek.norut.no
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-Tom Rune Lauknes LA1BJA               "Norway vs Mexico 1-0 !!"
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-NORUT IT A.S
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Date: Tue, 21 Jun 1994 14:51:53 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!library.ucla.edu!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!uhog.mit.edu!news.kei.com!wang![e-mail]
To: [e-mail]

References <[e-mail]>, <[e-mail]>, <[e-mail]>
Subject : Re: "73's"

[e-mail] (Romulus) writes:

>Dave Bushong ([e-mail]) wrote:

>: If everyone started saying "3's and 8's to ya, good buddy" I wouldn't
>: get used to that either.

>Well Dave,

>Yours is the precise, uncompromising, out of date attitude that generates
>hostility among amateurs.  I personally resent being targeted as a child and
>generally resent that type of dinosaur attitude.

You're partially right.  I am precise.  But the rest of that is crap,
specifically "uncompromising" and "out of date" and "dinosaur".  In
eleven and one-half years, when you are my age (39), you'll see how
funny that statement sounds.

>Language and lingo/jargon are particular to groups, not to the society as a
>whole.  If a particular group wishes to recognize a particular form of
>address, then so be it.

That is inherently true.  When someone says "gaa gaa goo goo mama" I
tend to associate them with children.  When someone says "3's and 8's
to ya', good buddy", I tend to associate them with CBers.  No moral
judgements there, just the benefit of the experience of my jurassic 39
years on this planet.

>This reminds me of the juice commercials where the town elders are crying
>about "moral outrage" and "abominations".  Well, we are going to have our
>apple-orange juice mix, regardless of your objections.

Sorry, I don't watch TV often enough to have the commercials
memorized.  I prefer being a participant on the ham bands, instead of
an arm-chair spectator of network TV.


--
Dave Bushong, Wang Laboratories, Inc.

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Date: (null)
From: (null)
In article <[e-mail]>, you wrote:

> Great News!!!
>
> Yesterday, 19th june 1994, we had a great (well great...) opening
> towards the States here in Europe and especially Northern Europe.
>
> The opening started at approx. 19.10 UTC in South Germany and at
> 19.55 Z it reached our (i.e. the centre of the Netherlands) lattitude.
>
> During the 25 min opening I worked 36 american stations from
> the 1,2,3,4,5,8 district and a few VE3's. The opening disappeared at 20.20 Z.
> At 21.45 a small opening reoccured and three stations were worked.
>
> Although a known phenomenon to active 50 MHz DX-ers, multi hop Es to the
> States at the lattitude of the Netherlands is relatively rare.
> Please if you work PA's, DL's or ON's only give your grid square.
> Especially during a pile-up we don't have the faintest idea where all kinds
> of exotic names origin from :-) Also the name of the cat of your neighbour
> is of less importance to us ;-)
>
> People in the southern part of Holland (*sigh*) were able to
> work CY9/WC9E and FP5EK (yes, the openings are that local that 15 km
> make a significant difference between booming 59 signals and hearing
> *nothing* at all. When you live in the central or northern part of
> the Netherlands the opening already disappeared before you get the skip :-(((
>
> Hope to work you on six too,
>
>
> Remco PA3FYM

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Date: (null)
From: (null)
By the way, I worked 3 W0s (EM29, EM38) I believe last Monday night the
13th on a 5 min 2 mtr Es opening.  All other areas of W1, W2, W3 had
much more extensive openings that day.



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In article <[e-mail]>, you wrote:

> Great News!!!
>
> Yesterday, 19th june 1994, we had a great (well great...) opening
> towards the States here in Europe and especially Northern Europe.
>
> The opening started at approx. 19.10 UTC in South Germany and at
> 19.55 Z it reached our (i.e. the centre of the Netherlands) lattitude.
>
> During the 25 min opening I worked 36 american stations from
> the 1,2,3,4,5,8 district and a few VE3's. The opening disappeared at 20.20 Z.
> At 21.45 a small opening reoccured and three stations were worked.
>
> Although a known phenomenon to active 50 MHz DX-ers, multi hop Es to the
> States at the lattitude of the Netherlands is relatively rare.
> Please if you work PA's, DL's or ON's only give your grid square.
> Especially during a pile-up we don't have the faintest idea where all kinds
> of exotic names origin from :-) Also the name of the cat of your neighbour
> is of less importance to us ;-)
>
> People in the southern part of Holland (*sigh*) were able to
> work CY9/WC9E and FP5EK (yes, the openings are that local that 15 km
> make a significant difference between booming 59 signals and hearing
> *nothing* at all. When you live in the central or northern part of
> the Netherlands the opening already disappeared before you get the skip :-(((
>
> Hope to work you on six too,
>
>
> Remco PA3FYM

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Date: (null)
From: (null)
By the way, I worked 3 W0s (EM29, EM38) I believe last Monday night the
13th on a 5 min 2 mtr Es opening.  All other areas of W1, W2, W3 had
much more extensive openings that day.



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